Msg Base: AREA 5 - ASK FATHER CIN ECHO AMDG Msg No: 292. Mon 5-04-92 18:30 (NO KILL) (MAILED) From: Father Mateo To: David Baham Subject: Sacrament of Matrimony DB|Dear Father, | I have a question, you may be able to answer it quickly. I am married, |but was not married in the Church, I do know that the church believes that |I'm |living in sin, since I was not married in the Catholic Church. The question |is, could you direct me to the scripture in the Bible where it says that I |have to be married in the Catholic Church, you see my wife is Baptist, and |feels that we shouldn't have to get remarried in the Church, I have explained DB|to her that my church will not allow me to fully participant in the Mass. |If you could show me where it is in the Scripture, it might show her, so | we may be married in the Church. | Thank you for your help, | David Baham Dear David: Normally on this conference I do not answer questions about marriage, preferring to urge the questioner to visit the parish priest. Marriage is so deeply personal and interpersonal that only a personal talk, or probably several, can do it justice. But I can explain for you and your wife the doctrine of marriage. Thus I do not make any statement especially relative to you or any other individual. You will still need to talk to a parish priest, then, after reading this message, I am going to quote heavily from Leo Trese's chapter on matrimony in his book, "The Faith Explained". I do so to achieve a brevity and clarity I feel unable to attain by myself. "It was as a unique and permanent union that God established marriage when he gave Eve to Adam in Paradise.... With the coming of Jesus, (certain) exceptions to the oneness and permanence of marriage were ended.... Jesus took ... (the) exchange of marital consent between man and woman, and made the contract a conveyor of grace; He made marriage a SACRAMENT, The Sacrament of Matrimony among Christians. Matrimony is defined as "the sacrament by which a baptized man and a baptized woman bind themselves for life in a lawful marriage and receive the GRACE to discharge their duties.... Besides the priesthood, there is no state in life that PLEADS for grace as demandingly as does marriage." [Trese ponders here some of the difficulties of married life, especially raising children, then he continues:] "In Christ's new plan for mankind, there was a further need for grace in marriage. It would be upon parents that Jesus must depend for the continual replenishment of His Mystical Body: that union-in-grace whereby all baptized Catholics are one in Christ." (See Ephesians 5:21-33.) Now, I must cut the chase and go on by myself. Both you and your wife are baptized, and therefore you CAN give each other the Sacrament of Matrimony; but, in fact, you have not yet done so, because you as a Catholic cannot give her the Sacrament, except in union with Christ's Mystical Body, the Church. If you are in union with the Church as you marry, you thereby liberate her to confer the Sacrament upon you. This is what Christ and your Church, His Body, invite you to do. (To keep my message suitably short, I'll close now and continue at once in a new message. God bless you both, Father Mateo * OLX 2.1 TD * I will praise you Lord for you have rescued me. (0xfe) BGQWK 1.0(beta)28 Unregistered Evaluation Copy Msg Base: AREA 5 - ASK FATHER CIN ECHO AMDG Msg No: 293. Mon 5-04-92 18:32 (NO KILL) (MAILED) From: Father Mateo To: David Baham Subject: Sacrament of Matrimony DB|Dear Father, | I have a question, you may be able to answer it quickly. I am married, |but was not married in the Church, I do know that the church believes that |I'm |living in sin, since I was not married in the Catholic Church. The question |is, could you direct me to the scripture in the Bible where it says that I |have to be married in the Catholic Church, you see my wife is Baptist, and |feels that we shouldn't have to get remarried in the Church, I have explained DB|to her that my church will not allow me to fully participant in the Mass. |If |you could show me where it is in the Scripture, it might show her, so we may |be married in the Church. | Thank you for your help, | David Baham Dear David, Since your wife is a Baptist, she does not consider marriage a sacrament (at least, official Baptist doctrine denies that it is). Furthermore, I am quite sure she does not use Scripture the way we do. For Baptists, the Bible alone is the repository of revealed truth. We do not think this is true, partly because the Bible does not teach that the Bible alone is our only source of revealed truth. Therefore, she may be uneasy about Trese's next words: "It is no wonder that Christ made marriage a sacrament. Just WHEN He did so, during His public life, we do not know." [Trese lists two possible times which theologians have proposed: 1) John 2:1-11, and 2) Matthew 19:4-7.] "However, such speculations as to the exact time at which Jesus made Marriage a sacrament are rather fruitless. It is enough for us to know, BY THE CONSTANT AND UNBROKEN TRADITION OF THE CHURCH, that Jesus did so transform the marriage bond." (Emphasis mine). (Now, I'm back, David. The above won't satisfy your wife, maybe, as long as she thinks as a Baptist. But because she is a Baptist who wishes to be married to a Catholic. I would encourage her to read on.) "... The couple who are getting married administer the sacrament of Matrimony to each other.... The priest cannot administer the sacrament of Matrimony; only the contracting couple can do that. The priest is simply the official witness, REPRESENTING CHRIST AND CHRIST'S CHURCH (emphasis mine) The priest's presence is normally essential; WITHOUT HIM THERE IS NO SACRAMENT AND NO MARRIAGE. But but he does not CONFER THE SACRAMENT (emphasis mine).... A Catholic cannot validly contract marriage except it be in the presence of a priest.... A Catholic who attempts to enter into marriage before a minister or a civil magistrate ... is not really married at all. He commits a grave sin by going through such a ceremony. Two NON-CATHOLICS who are married by a minister or a civil magistrate ARE GENUINELY MARRIED.... if both non-Catholics are baptised, their marriage is a sacrament. For a Catholic, there just isn't any other way to marry validly except to receive the Sacrament of Matrimony. When Jesus institutes a sacrament, He requires that His followers use it." This has been our faith and our practice for twenty centuries. Marriage is a sacred and sanctifying bond which we cannot enter upon apart from the witnessing Church, represented by one's priest or bishop. Every Christian century bears witness to this. The New Testament (especially Ephesians and Revelation) teaches that the marriage union is a symbol of the union of Christ and His people the Church. This makes marriage itself supremely sacred. Marriage BELONGS in the Church, God's household. Fifteen years after Revelation was written, Our St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch in Syria wrote: "All who belong to God and Jesus Christ are with the bishop" -- i.e., are in union with the Church -- "and all who repent and return to the unity of the Church, these also belong to God, that they may live according to Jesus Christ." (Letter to the Philadelphians). "It is right for men and women, when they marry, to unite themselves with the consent of the bishop, that the marriage may be according to the Lord.... Let all things be done to the honor of God. Give heed to the bishop that God may also give heed to you" (Epistle to Polycarp). You are both in my prayers. Please go visit and talk to your parish priest. Sincerely in Christ, Father Mateo