Msg Base: AREA 5 - ASK FATHER CIN ECHO AMDG Msg No: 290. Wed 4-22-92 22:06 (NO KILL) (MAILED) From: Father Mateo To: Danny Wilks Subject: The Bible +- | I have two questions that I will ask. 1 at what age does a child have | acountablity? 2. What Bible txt proves Mary was still a virgin after the | Bitrh of Christ? I f it is not written then it is man made doctrine and | not Biblical. Therefor questionable as to accuracy. Comment on first | question: Children between ages newborn and five seem to be mor accepting | of the love of God that flows through Christ in others. They also are mor | able to accept Christ for some reason. +-[DW=>ABIC] Dear Danny, You have written: "If it is not written (in the Bible), then it is man made doctrine and not biblical." This is the Protestant principle of SOLA SCRIPTURA (the Bible alone is the repository of ALL God's revelation to mankind). This principle is nowhere taught or implied in the books of the Bible. It was invented in the late Middle Ages by the Albigensian heretics, adopted by the Waldensians somewhat later to justify their heresy, and made the cornerstone of Protestantism in the 16th century. It was unheard of in apostolic times and throughout the first eleven centuries of Christian history. It is "another gospel" than the one we received from Christ and his Apostles. As such, it falls under the ban pronounced by St. Paul in Galatians 1:6-10. From the Day of Pentecost (described in Acts 2:1-41) until A.D. 51, when Paul wrote the earliest book of the New Testament (1st Thessalonians), the Church had only oral traditions about Jesus and his origin (involving Mary) and his teaching, death, resurrection, and ascension.) These traditions were monitored by the Church under the protection of Holy Spirit. Some of the Apostles and some of their disciples wrote some of these traditions down, explored them, and developed them, thus producing the books of the New Testament. The Church in turn, through her Bishops, exercising their teaching authority (cf. Matthew 28: 16-20), authenticated the New Testament books, identifying them as the work of the Holy Spirit. The Church has given us the New Testament. Christian teaching, then and from then on, is contained in a twin source: sacred oral tradition, as from the Day of Pentecost, and written tradition or Scripture. In 2nd Thessalonians 2:14, Paul says to his converts: "(God) has called you through our GOSPEL." In verse 15, he identifies his GOSPEL: it is "the traditions that you were taught". He then distinguishes those traditions as both oral and written: "either by an oral statement or by an epistle of ours." To ask for a "bible verse" to "prove" any Christian doctrine is to fall into the SOLA SCRIPTURA trap. Christians should not operate that way. Catholic Christians never do, because we know that we are "the household of God, the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth (1st Timothy 3:15). The Church was the matrix of New Testament scripture, which was written by her earliest bishops under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Church uses the New Testament and the oral tradition as teaching tools. Scripture is indeed "inspired by God and useful for teaching, refutation, correction, and training in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16). But if Scripture is misused, apart from the Church which Christ founded to teach us, Scripture becomes "hard to understand, so that the ignorant and unstable distort it to their own destruction" (2nd Peter 3:16). Danny, I have strict space limits on this board, so I must close now. If you wish to ask questions about Church teaching on Mary or any other doctrine, please send me more messages. But I hope you understand now that "show me in the Bible where it proves...." is a meaningless demand. It is unbiblical, too. Sincerely in Christ, Father Mateo