Msg Base: AREA 5 - ASK FATHER CIN ECHO AMDG Msg No: 235. Thu 1-30-92 21:59 (NO KILL) (MAILED) From: Father Mateo To: Jim Cox Subject: Papal definitions +- | >The teachings of the Church were not "developed", as if they are the | >fruit of human industry and the passage of time. They were revealed | >us by God through Christ: "In times past, God spoke in partial and | >various ways to our ancestors through the prophets; in these last days | >he spoke to us through a Son, whom he made heir of all things and | >through whom he created the universe" (Hebrews 1:1-2). | | Where did Christ reveal the Immaculate Conception? Since Christ reveals | why is Papal Defination necessary? | | Jim +-[JC=>FM] Dear Jim, You ask, "Since Christ reveals, why is papal definition necessary?" Like a good rabbi, I'll answer your question by asking you another question: "If your wife boils an artichoke and serves it to you, why do you still have to pull off the leaves one by one in order to eat it?" It is the job of the Church to meditate, expound, and interpret doctrine. Popes, pastors, theologians, and the faithful over the centuries draw out the implications of the data of Scripture and Sacred Tradition. Papal definitions (or council definitions) usually come when a doctrine is under attack. Then we need clarity and certitude, such as an infallible definition can give. The earliest example on record of the Church's drawing out the implications of one of Christ's teachings and confirming it with a papal definition is found in the Book of Acts. Christ had said: "Teach all nations" ("ethne", "gentiles"). That should have been clear enough ---only it wasn't. The very earliest Christians were converts from Judaism, and they felt enormous difficulties in accepting converts from paganism. They felt these converts should be circumcised before baptism, i.e., become Jews before becoming Catholics. In this atmosphere, a Roman soldier named Cornelius, a good man with an affinity toward Judaism, received a vision. An angel told him to get in touch with Simon Peter, our first Pope. Meanwhile, Simon Peter himself received a very disturbing vision, a panoramic vision and a message telling him that ALL FOODS ARE CLEAN (Acts 10:9-16). This perplexed Peter because it seemed to mean that Jewish dietary laws no longer held. While he pondered the meaning of this new teaching, men came from Cornelius inviting Peter to visit Cornelius and his family and friends in their home. Peter accompanied them. Once inside the house, he said that it was unlawful for Jews to associate with or visit Gentiles, "but God has shown me that I should not call any MAN common or unclean" (Acts 10:28-29). Please note that Peter has pondered the vision (v.19) and DEDUCED its IMPLICATION. The vision was about animals (vv.11-14); the message was ambivalent (v.15); Peter applied it to PEOPLE (v.28). This is development of dogma under the supervision of the magisterium. The Holy Spirit now intervened as Peter was preaching to these new catechumens, causing them to praise God and speak in tongues. So Peter baptized them. In chapter 11 of Acts, we find Peter in Jerusalem the target of criticism from the "circumcision party". So Peter told the whole story of chapter 10 all over again, giving the reasons for his associating with gentiles and receiving and baptizing them. His critics were thereby silenced. These two chapters of Acts are a cameo of what the Church and her Popes have been doing for 20 centuries, and they suggest at least why papal definitions are sometimes necessary. Sincerely in Christ, Father Mateo